Hi Paul, I know it is a bit early but judging by the popularity of last years Winter series, I thought I would get an entry off ASAP. Entry form for Jim Drake and Graham Robinson is in the post.
The summer is nearly over (boo!) but the Winter 12 Car Series is just around the corner (hooray!). The first road event is the Priestley Rally on 26th September. I will need marshals and course cars and any offers will be gratefully received.
Contact me on 07702 113684 or email
to offer your services. Route is in Northeast Essex, starting and finishing on the A1124 between Colchester and Halstead.
Welcome to the club and forum. I'd send an entry form as this will guarantee a first reserve spot, there's always a big chance of someone dropping from the list (it could be me and the not so reliable Mini, hopefully not! ;-) )
If not, I'm sure Paul will appreciate some marshals.
The entry list is not in fact full so please put an entry in. The club's policy is to prioritise entries from beginners and novices over the exper crews, so it is the experts who on the reserve list and a space is still there for you. We usually expect 12 starters on the day from 14 entries so as Luis says you will definitely get a run. The entry list will be closed a week before the event with the experts then filling any spaces. After that it's first come first served for everyone reagardless of class.
We have a club night on 18th September so please come along to the General's Arms if you want any more training & awareness - there will be a few experienced navigators happy to help.
further to my last post i am now planning on carring out a training run on the Thursday 11th around 8.00pm venue to be confirmed. if anyone wants to take part please let me know by the end of the weekend so i can arrange permit and paperwork.
Hi everyone - thanks for your replies. We have been on holiday the last couple of weeks ... which means I am remiss on an entry form :-( I am just filling it out now. I've gone for "no loading" insurance is that right?
For navs/drivers arriving in seperate cars, will the parking area at the start be available to access after finishing or do we need to arrange to get the cars to the pub before we start?
The car park at Chappel and Wakes Colne Station/Railway Museum is free and open 24 hours - there are no gates to worry about. It's a couple of miles from the finish, so It's up to you whether to leave the spare car at the start or the finish. Depends how much time you have before the event I suppose.
Final instructions have been sent to the email addresses on the entry forms - in some cases both crew, some navigator only, some driver only. If you haven't received them please let me know
Marshal information has been sent out by email. Please let me know if you have not received it. I am still short of one marshal for a control near Castle Hedingham so if you can help please let me know, by posting on here or email
Evening all - OK we have our maps, lights, clip-board, pencils, V5... unfortuneately I've put our nice new membership cards somewhere "safe" and that place is so safe I can't find them.
The final instructions say we must have our membership cards.... so I'll keep looking.
Hi Paul, thanks for another great evenings Motor Sport. What a way to kick off the 2014 Winter Series. Jim really enjoyed the roads and the driving. He thought the roads were the best he had driven in all the time we have been doing CMC 12 Cars. When we got back to the pub that view was held by all. Thanks to all the marshals and organisers for their conmtribution to a another great event.
Congratulations to Luis and Lucy for their 1st Overall. The first of many, I think.
In retrospect maybe the timing was a little tight - it's hard to keep up 30 mph average on some of those narrow twisty lanes or through large villages such as The Hedinghams and Earls Colne. Full results plus comments will be posted later today. Well done to everyone for getting round, and although the fail count was quite high 3 fails for an OTL or missed control soon mount up.
Someone paid me cash for insurance (apart from John C and Luis) but everyone else had already paid with their entries, so if it was you please let me know by email and I'll pass it on as a credit for the next event.
Thanks to Peter for noise, scrutineering and driving me round, to Brian and Geoff for course closer and dealing expertly with a couple of PR issues, and all the marshals who turned out.
I have to agree with Jim and many others in saying that, at least from a driver's point of view, it was the most enjoyable 12 car I've ever done an this has nothing to do with the final result. The lanes were perfectly suited for the little Minis.
Lucy, what else to say about her?!? how her brain works on a Friday evening after a whole week of teaching a bunch of teens at school is beyond my understanding. It's not only her map reading and plotting skills, but her joviality too. Narrow and twisty lanes, Mini and herself made for a most enjoyable evening.
Thanks to Paul, Peter, all the others and of course the marshals.
It was great to see all the beginners taking part and also seeing everyone back at the pub everyone seemed to have enjoyed it despite the fails...
I better put the form for the next one in the post quickly!!
See you next month!!
Luis (red Mini)
P.S. we need marshals for the Preston :-) (I'll be in touch soon)
These are attached. There are a couple of changes from those I announced last night, but none that affected the awards. As I previously posted the timing was tight, although set strictly to 30 mph, and a number of beginners (and others) went OTL at one or more control. Learning when and where to cut route to stay within your time is a skill best picked up by experience. There were several loops where cutting would have saved a lot of time and only missed one or two code boards, a lesser penalty than OTL. TC5 to 6 and TC8 to 9 were examples of this. Most organisers will put in one or two of these to a route so it's worth trying to spot them when you are plotting. TC2 to 3, which was map refs with approach and depart directions, seemed to fox a few as a lot of time was lost on this section by some crews. Still it was good that everyone made it to the finish, and thanks for the compliments on the route - I enjoyed it too!!
Firstly Paul (and all your assistants), thanks for an excellent night.
Now for our excuses, Mike and I were both a bit off colour last night, he with a terrible cough, and me sufferring with needing new glasses (old age and varifocals have caught up with me) and a worn out map where all teh unders and overs were did not help at all..And I am going to stick with those excises to cover up for my iffy form.We found the timing a bit tight but we were deliberatly not pushing too hard as teh car has had a fair bit of work since we ended up in the onion field in June.I knew we could just avoid OTL at the last TC if I made no errors on the last section, but a slight mis-plot sent us off route, so we ensured we got the code boards to offset the OTL fails, knowing we could get no more at MTC.
It seemed to me that a lot of effort had been put in to ensure all the clues etc were very "polished", everything seemed just right. The clues were very cleverly thought out.
Just enough information to plot the route without any doubt.
it was interesting to see our clues compared to the others at the end as well. I have been taking notes!
Firstly Paul (and all your assistants), thanks for an excellent night.
Now for our excuses, Mike and I were both a bit off colour last night, he with a terrible cough, and me sufferring with needing new glasses (old age and varifocals have caught up with me) and a worn out map where all teh unders and overs were did not help at all
Cheers
Colin
[/quote] The fact you need new gasses Colin is a bit worrying as we are driving 2000 miles next weekend in the Round Britain Run and also you sudden inability to spell THE.
it seems forever since the end of last years series but the premier 12 car series is back with a bang. well done Paul and team for a very good event. stuart and i have one major ctiticism. The event was about 50 miles too short. You could say the timing was a little tight but only if you combine it with clues that that were not the type usually used. we droped 20 min with one section (the under and over ) causing most of the delay. driving up that pylon to get over that high voltage cable cost us at least 20 min other wise we would have cleaned the event no problem. well done again and looking forward to the next one
cant find the results but they might be behind the code board we couldnt find either
looking at the results i still cant see how we missed code board JW and as only two people did get it could Lucy or Colin help by tellig me exactly where it was please
hi
proper comment to come later (inc answer to jw q) but typing on phone at the moment so difficult! i can't seem to seem to see the link to results though?? where should i be looking please?! maybe it's because i'm on my phone!
thanks!!
looking at the results i still cant see how we missed code board JW and as only two people did get it could Lucy or Colin help by tellig me exactly where it was please
pat
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It was at 896345, just before the junction on the SWR triangle. The road was a little mucky so people may have thought the LWR was the right road, and might have missed it. 3 crews and the closing car found it so either you missed it or took the wrong route because it was definitely there.
A couple of people have had difficulty seeing the results as it was posted as a private attachment - I have now posted it as a public attachment which should be viewable by anyone. I'm sure when he gets back from the HRCR Classic Tony M will post them in the correct section of the website.
Thanks paul for answering the question....when I looked at it I didn't know where jw was! If I can work out a how to attach a picture I'll do so to show our route.
Thanks to Paul and to all marshals/helpers for a great night on Friday. The roads were rather interesting for a navigator but nice to have one which the drivers could get really stuck into too! And to the other competitors who always make the challenge so difficult!!
Lovely to see so many beginners too...I do hope they all stick with it! For a navigator starting off juggling 3 mapscon what, I would agree with, was tight timing for such roads, must have been very difficult but if you can do that you can cope with most situations!
Finally a massive thanks to Luis and LVL who got us round so successfully.....team teachers seems to be working despite our tiredness on a Friday evening!
Very much looking forward to the Mick Bliss!
Hopefully see people at Snetterton in the meantime
Hi
Entry for Luis and myself put in the post, 1st class, this morning :) Looking forward to it!
Thanks!
Entry in the post for Pat Tierney and Stuart Collett
Seeded Entry List. Entries now closed.
1. John Conboy/Jon Bray Beginner Civic Blue GD51HFM
2. Keith Lane/Julie Lane Beginner Ka Silver S418OTR
3. Tony Hyatt/Ken Shields Beginner Mini Cooper Red/White APB835A
4. James Baxter/Alan Mills Beginner BMW M535i Red LDA702W
5. Laura Lucking/Will Mallard Beginner Fiesta Black YG62AEX
6. Pat Tierney/Stuart Collett Novice MGZR Blue KS03BZP
7. Jim Drake/Graham Robinson Novice Mini Cooper White CYE348H
8. Luis Gutierrez/Lucy Fryer Novice Mini Red C599LVL
9. Bradley Howlett/Simon Howlett Novice 205 Silver F185PRT
10. Mike Bishop/Darren Armitage Novice Stag Red OAG598L
11. Dave Thompson/Jarrod Thompson Expert Forester Silver Y829FEL
12. Eddie Call/Adrian Bragg Expert MGBGT Blue PNM246J
R1 Mike Helm/Colin Wake Expert TR6 Red EPA878J
Still need a couple of marshals, & a course closing car. Colin/Mike, are you interested in taking this on?
Paul
Hi everyone
The summer is nearly over (boo!) but the Winter 12 Car Series is just around the corner (hooray!). The first road event is the Priestley Rally on 26th September. I will need marshals and course cars and any offers will be gratefully received.
Contact me on 07702 113684 or email
to offer your services. Route is in Northeast Essex, starting and finishing on the A1124 between Colchester and Halstead.
Thanks
Paul Brewerton
entry from Mikeyb & DarrenA on it's way :-)
I hope Mr Helm has put ours in the post......
If we were too tardy, our services will be available I am sure.
Colin
I am proposing the next installment with a small practice run out. I am open to offers either one night during the week or Sat morning as prevoius.
If interseted let me know asap so I can organise.
looking at 11/12/13 Sept
John
Afternoon Everyone,
My wife and I are new to the CMC and was wondering if we could be put on the reserves for this first 12 car of the season?
We would love to be able to take part - we'll send in an entry form, is that OK or do we wait until a slot may become available?
Thanks
Will Mallard and Laura Lucking
Hi will
Welcome to the club and forum. I'd send an entry form as this will guarantee a first reserve spot, there's always a big chance of someone dropping from the list (it could be me and the not so reliable Mini, hopefully not! ;-) )
If not, I'm sure Paul will appreciate some marshals.
Looking forward to meeting you.
Luis
Will,
The entry list is not in fact full so please put an entry in. The club's policy is to prioritise entries from beginners and novices over the exper crews, so it is the experts who on the reserve list and a space is still there for you. We usually expect 12 starters on the day from 14 entries so as Luis says you will definitely get a run. The entry list will be closed a week before the event with the experts then filling any spaces. After that it's first come first served for everyone reagardless of class.
We have a club night on 18th September so please come along to the General's Arms if you want any more training & awareness - there will be a few experienced navigators happy to help.
further to my last post i am now planning on carring out a training run on the Thursday 11th around 8.00pm venue to be confirmed. if anyone wants to take part please let me know by the end of the weekend so i can arrange permit and paperwork.
Hi Paul
It looks like Mike Banks will be moving house on the 26th so i will offer my services as a marshal for this event i will send you an email.
Mark Rutter
Hi everyone - thanks for your replies. We have been on holiday the last couple of weeks ... which means I am remiss on an entry form :-( I am just filling it out now. I've gone for "no loading" insurance is that right?
The "loading" is an insurance premium, so for example if you're under a certain age they will charge more. Have a read of point 17 in the regs at http://chelmsfordmc.co.uk/cmc/12_Cars/1415/12_Car_Common_Regs_14-15.pdf which should help.
Thanks for the link - we don't need the loading so I've done it correctly. OK the form is on it's way.
Seeded entry list has been published (see earlier post). Finals and marshal instructions will be sent out by email early next week.
Paul
Thanks for the entry - exciting. I'll be doing some swotting up on the navigation this weekend. Sorry we couldn't make it to club night.
Look forward to meeting everyone.
Paul
Pencil us in for closing car, and I'll confirm with Mr H tomorrow.
We should be able to help with the "Beginners" at the start as well if needed.
Cheers
Colin
Hi Colin, Does that include me!!!
Thanks Colin, much appreciated.
Paul
Hi
For navs/drivers arriving in seperate cars, will the parking area at the start be available to access after finishing or do we need to arrange to get the cars to the pub before we start?
Thanks!
Lucy
The car park at Chappel and Wakes Colne Station/Railway Museum is free and open 24 hours - there are no gates to worry about. It's a couple of miles from the finish, so It's up to you whether to leave the spare car at the start or the finish. Depends how much time you have before the event I suppose.
Cheers
Paul
Paul - thanks! We'll see what happens on the night!
Lucy
Final instructions have been sent to the email addresses on the entry forms - in some cases both crew, some navigator only, some driver only. If you haven't received them please let me know
Paul
Marshal information has been sent out by email. Please let me know if you have not received it. I am still short of one marshal for a control near Castle Hedingham so if you can help please let me know, by posting on here or email
Paul Brewerton
Hi Paul
Any chance you could send me the finals for Friday as haven't recieved them.
Regards
Jon
Hi Jon
Your email wasnt on the entry form. Let me have it and I'll gladly send them to you. mine is
Paul
Hi Paul. I have forwarded them this eve
JC
Evening all - OK we have our maps, lights, clip-board, pencils, V5... unfortuneately I've put our nice new membership cards somewhere "safe" and that place is so safe I can't find them.
The final instructions say we must have our membership cards.... so I'll keep looking.
Hi Paul, thanks for another great evenings Motor Sport. What a way to kick off the 2014 Winter Series. Jim really enjoyed the roads and the driving. He thought the roads were the best he had driven in all the time we have been doing CMC 12 Cars. When we got back to the pub that view was held by all. Thanks to all the marshals and organisers for their conmtribution to a another great event.
Congratulations to Luis and Lucy for their 1st Overall. The first of many, I think.
Regards,
Graham
without whom It seem that was view was
Thanks Graham
In retrospect maybe the timing was a little tight - it's hard to keep up 30 mph average on some of those narrow twisty lanes or through large villages such as The Hedinghams and Earls Colne. Full results plus comments will be posted later today. Well done to everyone for getting round, and although the fail count was quite high 3 fails for an OTL or missed control soon mount up.
Someone paid me cash for insurance (apart from John C and Luis) but everyone else had already paid with their entries, so if it was you please let me know by email and I'll pass it on as a credit for the next event.
Thanks to Peter for noise, scrutineering and driving me round, to Brian and Geoff for course closer and dealing expertly with a couple of PR issues, and all the marshals who turned out.
See you all on the next one.
Paul
I have to agree with Jim and many others in saying that, at least from a driver's point of view, it was the most enjoyable 12 car I've ever done an this has nothing to do with the final result. The lanes were perfectly suited for the little Minis.
Lucy, what else to say about her?!? how her brain works on a Friday evening after a whole week of teaching a bunch of teens at school is beyond my understanding. It's not only her map reading and plotting skills, but her joviality too. Narrow and twisty lanes, Mini and herself made for a most enjoyable evening.
Thanks to Paul, Peter, all the others and of course the marshals.
It was great to see all the beginners taking part and also seeing everyone back at the pub everyone seemed to have enjoyed it despite the fails...
I better put the form for the next one in the post quickly!!
See you next month!!
Luis (red Mini)
P.S. we need marshals for the Preston :-) (I'll be in touch soon)
These are attached. There are a couple of changes from those I announced last night, but none that affected the awards. As I previously posted the timing was tight, although set strictly to 30 mph, and a number of beginners (and others) went OTL at one or more control. Learning when and where to cut route to stay within your time is a skill best picked up by experience. There were several loops where cutting would have saved a lot of time and only missed one or two code boards, a lesser penalty than OTL. TC5 to 6 and TC8 to 9 were examples of this. Most organisers will put in one or two of these to a route so it's worth trying to spot them when you are plotting. TC2 to 3, which was map refs with approach and depart directions, seemed to fox a few as a lot of time was lost on this section by some crews. Still it was good that everyone made it to the finish, and thanks for the compliments on the route - I enjoyed it too!!
http://chelmsfordmc.co.uk/cmc/12_Cars/1415/Priestley14_Results.pdf
Firstly Paul (and all your assistants), thanks for an excellent night.
Now for our excuses, Mike and I were both a bit off colour last night, he with a terrible cough, and me sufferring with needing new glasses (old age and varifocals have caught up with me) and a worn out map where all teh unders and overs were did not help at all..And I am going to stick with those excises to cover up for my iffy form.We found the timing a bit tight but we were deliberatly not pushing too hard as teh car has had a fair bit of work since we ended up in the onion field in June.I knew we could just avoid OTL at the last TC if I made no errors on the last section, but a slight mis-plot sent us off route, so we ensured we got the code boards to offset the OTL fails, knowing we could get no more at MTC.
It seemed to me that a lot of effort had been put in to ensure all the clues etc were very "polished", everything seemed just right. The clues were very cleverly thought out.
Just enough information to plot the route without any doubt.
it was interesting to see our clues compared to the others at the end as well. I have been taking notes!
Cheers
Colin
[quote=colinwake]
Firstly Paul (and all your assistants), thanks for an excellent night.
Now for our excuses, Mike and I were both a bit off colour last night, he with a terrible cough, and me sufferring with needing new glasses (old age and varifocals have caught up with me) and a worn out map where all teh unders and overs were did not help at all
Cheers
Colin
[/quote] The fact you need new gasses Colin is a bit worrying as we are driving 2000 miles next weekend in the Round Britain Run and also you sudden inability to spell THE.
Cheers Mark
well the wait was worth it !
it seems forever since the end of last years series but the premier 12 car series is back with a bang. well done Paul and team for a very good event. stuart and i have one major ctiticism. The event was about 50 miles too short. You could say the timing was a little tight but only if you combine it with clues that that were not the type usually used. we droped 20 min with one section (the under and over ) causing most of the delay. driving up that pylon to get over that high voltage cable cost us at least 20 min other wise we would have cleaned the event no problem. well done again and looking forward to the next one
cant find the results but they might be behind the code board we couldnt find either
looking at the results i still cant see how we missed code board JW and as only two people did get it could Lucy or Colin help by tellig me exactly where it was please
pat
hi
proper comment to come later (inc answer to jw q) but typing on phone at the moment so difficult! i can't seem to seem to see the link to results though?? where should i be looking please?! maybe it's because i'm on my phone!
thanks!!
[quote=usedtobequick]
looking at the results i still cant see how we missed code board JW and as only two people did get it could Lucy or Colin help by tellig me exactly where it was please
pat
[/quote]
Thanks paul for answering the question....when I looked at it I didn't know where jw was! If I can work out a how to attach a picture I'll do so to show our route.
Thanks to Paul and to all marshals/helpers for a great night on Friday. The roads were rather interesting for a navigator but nice to have one which the drivers could get really stuck into too! And to the other competitors who always make the challenge so difficult!!
Lovely to see so many beginners too...I do hope they all stick with it! For a navigator starting off juggling 3 mapscon what, I would agree with, was tight timing for such roads, must have been very difficult but if you can do that you can cope with most situations!
Finally a massive thanks to Luis and LVL who got us round so successfully.....team teachers seems to be working despite our tiredness on a Friday evening!
Very much looking forward to the Mick Bliss!
Hopefully see people at Snetterton in the meantime
Lucy